IRC log of #dokuwiki @ irc.libera.chat

For Sunday, 5 August 2012

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    CIA-106
    dokuwiki: Anika Henke master * r24d4949 / (2 files in 2 dirs): added some missing spaces (to popularity and revert plugins) - https://github.com/splitbrain/dokuwiki/commit/24d494984899eca69df2a5e50d941007500ba545
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    CIA-106
    dokuwiki: Anika Henke master * r63e967b / (5 files in 4 dirs): html validity fixes (removed name and align in some plugins) - https://github.com/splitbrain/dokuwiki/commit/63e967bdfd6d3bd52960647f8490dfd9678353f9
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  38. message at
    Guest40333
    hey everybody
  39. message at
    Guest40333
    i was wondering if there is a way to use my dokuwiki on my iphone
  40. message at
    Guest40333
    like a special template (responsive or mobile)
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  42. message at
    Michitux
    Guest40333: the new default template you can see on dokuwiki.org is responsive and there are templates like dokutouch or scanlines which have mobile versions/are responsive, too
  43. message at
    Michitux
    Guest40333: however no particular efforts have been made yet in order to improve the editing experience on small devices
  44. message at
    Guest40333
    hmm, okay. so you would recommend installing the new default template?
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  46. message at
    Michitux
    Guest40333: you can't use the new default template with the stable version
  47. message at
    Guest40333
    Michitux: okay. so it will be shipped with the next release?!
  48. message at
    Michitux
    yes, I think so
  49. message at
    Guest40333
    ok, cheers!
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    alice|wl
    /win 0
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  56. message at
    splitbrain
    hi selfthinker
  57. message at
    selfthinker
    hi splitbrain
  58. message at
    selfthinker
    I guess we can begin our first official IRC meetup!?
  59. message at
    splitbrain
    isn't it the second?
  60. message at
    selfthinker
    nope, it's our first
  61. message at
    selfthinker
    unless you had one without me ;-)
  62. message at
    selfthinker
    maybe you get confused with the bug hunting?
  63. message at
    splitbrain
    what was the one right after the hackfest? not an official one?
  64. message at
    selfthinker
    the last time it was the first Sunday in a month was 1 July, which was during the hackfest
  65. message at
    splitbrain
    alright
  66. message at
    splitbrain
    whatever it is :-) welcome
  67. message at
    selfthinker
    no, that was just a "discuss thing left over from the hackfest" meeting, not that kind of meeting we are supposed to have now
  68. message at
    splitbrain
    so who's here?
  69. message at
    splitbrain
    Michitux, are you there?
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  71. message at
    Michitux
    yes, more or less
  72. message at
    splitbrain
    yeah
  73. message at
    selfthinker
    not much in here: devel:irc_agenda
  74. message at
    splitbrain
    well the first one is a biggy :-)
  75. message at
    splitbrain
    oh btw. hakan told nme he's offline for a week or so. so he won't be here
  76. message at
    selfthinker
    the only thing that's in the way of the first RC is the roadmap, right?
  77. message at
    splitbrain
    right
  78. message at
    selfthinker
    I will have a look at FS#2569 and will fix what you suggested and provide a screenshot of the rest
  79. message at
    selfthinker
    sorry, haven't had time so far
  80. message at
    splitbrain
    dommel said he would have a look at FS#2415
  81. message at
    selfthinker
    but will do within the next 6 days
  82. message at
    splitbrain
    but he also dsaid it's more complicated than he thought in the first place
  83. message at
    Michitux
    and sorry for adding yet another bug, FS#2574
  84. message at
    splitbrain
    and he's off for two weeks for a vacation in italy
  85. message at
    selfthinker
    Michitux, you wrote on that that you're not sure if it's a bug at all?
  86. message at
    splitbrain
    my suggestion would be to move FS#2415 to the next release and change it to a feature request
  87. message at
    splitbrain
    because 2415 doesn't brak anything
  88. message at
    splitbrain
    it would just be nice to have it
  89. message at
    splitbrain
    opinions?
  90. message at
    selfthinker
    well, you could argue that it's a bug, because you would expect the information to already be there
  91. message at
    selfthinker
    but I don't think it's necessary to be fixed in the upcoming release
  92. message at
    Michitux
    selfthinker: I'm currently thinking the bug is not that we have some error in the compression but just that the compression is much slower on some systems
  93. message at
    selfthinker
    so, I'd say: move to the next release, but leave as bug report
  94. message at
    splitbrain
    selfthinker, okay
  95. message at
    splitbrain
    done
  96. message at
    Michitux
    this compression loop goes over every character or at least word in the javascript source, and this means now the whole jquery ui source
  97. message at
    splitbrain
    alright, let's talk about FS#2574
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  99. message at
    Michitux
    and my guess is that on some systems this is just too slow
  100. message at
    splitbrain
    Michitux, on what kind of system would it be slower than on others?
  101. message at
    splitbrain
    I mean is there something that would be affected by eg. 32 vs 64 bits?
  102. message at
    splitbrain
    or is there something other that would cause a massive slowdown?
  103. message at
    splitbrain
    or is it just low cppu means slower processing?
  104. message at
    Michitux
    I've no real idea, maybe there are some php extensions which impact the performance
  105. message at
    Michitux
    but my suggestion would just be to not to compress the already minified js source
  106. message at
    splitbrain
    missing mb_string maybe?
  107. message at
    Michitux
    because imho it makes no sense to compress jquery ui using our compression function
  108. message at
    selfthinker
    I thought we *don't* use the minified version?
  109. message at
    Michitux
    selfthinker: we do when compression is on afaik
  110. message at
    splitbrain
    yeah we do, because the precompressed version is smaller than what our processor does
  111. message at
    splitbrain
    the problem is that we run the compressor on the whole output
  112. message at
    Michitux
    but has our processor any effect on the minified source?
  113. message at
    selfthinker
    has that changed? or do I just remember it wrong?
  114. message at
    splitbrain
    not on individual files
  115. message at
    Michitux
    so maybe we can just leave out the beginning?
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  117. message at
    Michitux
    the beginning is some json encoded stuff and then the jquery files
  118. message at
    Michitux
    btw. my guess that this is not a general bug comes from the fact that one of the two users (I think the one in the forum) got the timeout on two different lines in the compress function
  119. message at
    splitbrain
    brb
  120. message at
    Michitux
    and these two things were in two different lines in the php code
  121. message at
    Michitux
    erm, I mean in two different loops inside the main loop of the compression
  122. message at
    Michitux
    however the user in the forum provided the whole js output, I ran it here and it worked fine
  123. message at
    Michitux
    just one thing was strange, at the beginning I used the broken download function of the pastebin and when I put that into the compression function, the output was completely broken
  124. message at
    Michitux
    only the beginning seemed to be compressed, then there was some part of the input, then a // comment began and in the comment was a part of the rest of the code
  125. message at
    Michitux
    the problem is: this input is 997K large
  126. message at
    splitbrain
    here is one idea:
  127. message at
    splitbrain
    we wrap the minified versions with some special comment
  128. message at
    splitbrain
    like /* COMPRESSED START */ /* COMPRESSED END */
  129. message at
    splitbrain
    then we could adjust our compressor to skip the char based processing for that part
  130. message at
    Michitux
    we process each character of these 997K large file individually, in this is imho insane in a language like php
  131. message at
    splitbrain
    and simply copy the lines
  132. message at
    Michitux
    yes, sounds like a plan
  133. message at
    splitbrain
    good
  134. message at
    splitbrain
    I'll add this idea to the ticket
  135. message at
    Michitux
    hm, I'm wondering why this file is actually 997K large
  136. message at
    Michitux
    jquery is 90K, jquery ui 198K
  137. message at
    Michitux
    so there must be something else in it which is really large
  138. message at
    Michitux
    ah, hm, seems I've taken the uncompressed version
  139. message at
    Michitux
    okay, with minified versions still 529K
  140. message at
    splitbrain
    alright comment added
  141. message at
    splitbrain
    I'll assign Michitux and me to the ticket and we'll see who's first to implement it
  142. message at
    Michitux
    okay
  143. message at
    splitbrain
    FS#2170
  144. message at
    splitbrain
    I'm not sure I understand your last comment Michitux
  145. message at
    Michitux
    what I want to say: we do already construct these addresses I've suggested when the admin sets @MAIL@ as mailfrom in some cases
  146. message at
    splitbrain
    Michitux, really? hmm. can you point me to a line?
  147. message at
    Michitux
    https://github.com/splitbrain/dokuwiki/blob/master/inc/mail.php#L43 <- this noreply is here
  148. message at
    Michitux
    which is used when no user is logged in
  149. message at
    splitbrain
    I see
  150. message at
    splitbrain
    okay
  151. message at
    splitbrain
    point taken
  152. message at
    Michitux
    so imho when the admin sets @MAIL@ as from address he needs to make sure that he can send mails from this noreply address + all user email addresses in dokuwiki
  153. message at
    splitbrain
    okay
  154. message at
    Michitux
    it might be that spam filter are more alert when the email comes from the users email address but not the own mail server
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  156. message at
    GeekShadow
    hello
  157. message at
    splitbrain
    simplest solution: we extend mail_setup to set an internal second option called $conf['noreply']
  158. message at
    GeekShadow
    We an issue with our dokuwiki install, bot spammer are creating talk: pages
  159. message at
    splitbrain
    this will always contain a autogenerated mail address
  160. message at
    Michitux
    GeekShadow: there is plugin:captcha
  161. message at
    Michitux
    GeekShadow: and a handy revert tool in the admin area
  162. message at
    DarkNekros
    hi GeekShadow ;)
  163. message at
    DarkNekros
    ça va?
  164. message at
    Michitux
    GeekShadow: and plugin:ipban
  165. message at
    GeekShadow
    I'm forced to removed those pages by editing
  166. message at
    splitbrain
    but only if mailfrom was non empty and contained a placeholder
  167. message at
    GeekShadow
    Michitux, thanks :)
  168. message at
    Michitux
    GeekShadow: maybe you can use the revert tool in the admin area or just delete them from the data/pages directory
  169. message at
    splitbrain
    if it was non empty but had no placeholder it is set to the same value as mailfrom
  170. message at
    GeekShadow
    Michitux, yup but it's showing in the history
  171. message at
    splitbrain
    in the subscription stuff we then use $conf'['noreply']
  172. message at
    splitbrain
    GeekShadow, old revisions are robots no-index
  173. message at
    GeekShadow
    other thing, one of our contributor did create a browserid (now called persona) login plugin
  174. message at
    GeekShadow
    https://github.com/Rudloff/dokuwiki-browserid
  175. message at
    GeekShadow
    feel free to report bugs :)
  176. message at
    splitbrain
    GeekShadow, please list it at the plugins page
  177. message at
    Michitux
    splitbrain: but this is only needed when the email address depends on the current user
  178. message at
    GeekShadow
    splitbrain, will do it :)
  179. message at
    splitbrain
    GeekShadow, anyway we're in the middle of something here...
  180. message at
    Michitux
    splitbrain: I think in most cases the mailfrom address will be one fixed address I think
  181. message at
    splitbrain
    Michitux, yeah
  182. message at
    splitbrain
    that's why added the additional conditions above
  183. message at
    GeekShadow
    I have to go eat, will be back later
  184. message at
    Michitux
    splitbrain: ah, sorry, didn't see these conditions
  185. message at
    Michitux
    splitbrain: but this email address should then also be used when no user is logged in for @MAIL@ i think
  186. message at
    Michitux
    (if it is not a default value)
  187. message at
    splitbrain
    Michitux, it is anyway
  188. message at
    splitbrain
    because the mailfrom and noreply would be the same value in that case
  189. message at
    splitbrain
    we need the second value only for when we have a logged in user but don't want to use it
  190. message at
    Michitux
    but we should use it also when we have no logged in user imho
  191. message at
    splitbrain
    Michitux, it's the exact same
  192. message at
    splitbrain
    when there is no logged in user the mailfrom value will have the same value
  193. message at
    Michitux
    yeah, but we should then set mailfrom to the noreply value
  194. message at
    splitbrain
    yes of cours
  195. message at
    splitbrain
    e
  196. message at
    splitbrain
    noreply should always be set
  197. message at
    splitbrain
    we don't want to have a bunch of if cases everywhere ;-)
  198. message at
    Michitux
    and I'm not sure I like the term "noreply"
  199. message at
    splitbrain
    i'm open for other suggestions
  200. message at
    Michitux
    hm, something like neutral_mailfrom or so?
  201. message at
    splitbrain
    mailfromnone?
  202. message at
    splitbrain
    selfthinker, any opinions?
  203. message at
    Michitux
    hm, mailfromnone sounds good imho
  204. message at
    Michitux
    what do you think about the idea of not having a logged-in user in the indexer?
  205. message at
    splitbrain
    Michitux, I'm not sure if not certain plugins might need or want it
  206. message at
    selfthinker
    I have no opinions right now, because I didn't bother so far to try to understand what you are talking about ;-)
  207. message at
    selfthinker
    you want to name a config option for a typical noreply email, right?
  208. message at
    splitbrain
    selfthinker, no
  209. message at
    splitbrain
    its not a config at all
  210. message at
    splitbrain
    we just store it in the config array for convenience
  211. message at
    splitbrain
    it's not exposed to the enduser
  212. message at
    selfthinker
    oh, okay
  213. message at
    CIA-106
    dokuwiki: Andreas Gohr noreply * rf7cefc0 / inc/mail.php : added mailfromnone internal option FS#2170 - https://github.com/splitbrain/dokuwiki/commit/f7cefc02a20fa93edb9fdf171c47c6abbcb20552
  214. message at
    splitbrain
    just pushed this to a branch
  215. message at
    selfthinker
    rather "mailfromnobody"?
  216. message at
    Michitux
    splitbrain: yes, that's the one side. the other side is that when metadata is indexed sometimes e.g. in the include plugin, that metadata can depend on the currently logged in user as includes can be user-specific. and in this case I would really like if there was just no user
  217. message at
    Michitux
    hm, on the other hand this creates really nasty caching problems...
  218. message at
    splitbrain
    Michitux, however that discussion is not related to FS#2170, right?
  219. message at
    Michitux
    splitbrain: not really, just that removing the logged in user from the indexer fixes the bug
  220. message at
    Michitux
    (as then we would already use the noreply address)
  221. message at
    splitbrain
    Michitux, ah I see :-)
  222. message at
    Michitux
    so it's a one-line fix for this bug ;)
  223. message at
    selfthinker
    let's assume we'll have fixed everything in a week or so ... is adrianlang waiting in the wings?
  224. message at
    Michitux
    btw. in a week I'll be more or less offline for a week
  225. message at
    splitbrain
    selfthinker, no idea.
  226. message at
    splitbrain
    selfthinker, I'd like to involve [bug] more. maybe we should assign building the RC to him
  227. message at
    Michitux
    (more or less means I'll be online on my phone so I can send a quick email or so)
  228. message at
    selfthinker
    splitbrain, sure, if he wants to get involved more himself ;-)
  229. message at
    splitbrain
    well he's part of the release team and said he'd like to help
  230. message at
    selfthinker
    yup, makes sense
  231. message at
    selfthinker
    if FS#2576 is a quick fix, we should add it to the roadmap as well
  232. message at
    CIA-106
    dokuwiki: Andreas Gohr noreply * r465e809 / (inc/mail.php inc/subscription.php): renamed mailfromnon to mailfromnobody, use in subscriptions - https://github.com/splitbrain/dokuwiki/commit/465e809be9a7b9bbf06feb7f47814582eadb0cf4
  233. message at
    Michitux
    haven't we fixed that one some time ago?
  234. message at
    splitbrain
    selfthinker, yeah add it
  235. message at
    selfthinker
    no idea, might be ... it's reported in Angua
  236. message at
    Michitux
    no, I mean longer ago
  237. message at
    splitbrain
    Michitux, we just recently had a problem with compression on dokuwiki.org this might be related
  238. message at
    Michitux
    but we had exactly this double compression some time ago
  239. message at
    selfthinker
    I tried to find something in flyspray but couldn't find anything
  240. message at
    splitbrain
    we should see if we can reproduce it. if not it's an easy one to fix ;-)
  241. message at
    splitbrain
    i opened PR#122
  242. message at
    selfthinker
    ok, I also notched down the severity ;-)
  243. message at
    Michitux
    well, the strange thing was iirc the question what you expect when downloading a gz file with content-encoding gzip
  244. message at
    splitbrain
    ah :-)
  245. message at
    splitbrain
    now I remember
  246. message at
    splitbrain
    grr something is fucked up on the dokuwiki.org server
  247. message at
    Michitux
    and iirc browsers expect that it is only compressed once
  248. message at
    splitbrain
    got a 500 from the bug tracker again
  249. message at
    Michitux
    I've also got that
  250. message at
    Michitux
    not now
  251. message at
    Michitux
    but some days ago
  252. message at
    Michitux
    but my comment was saved nevertheless
  253. message at
    Michitux
    so after reloaded I had submitted it twice
  254. message at
    splitbrain
    same here
  255. message at
    splitbrain
    reminds of a bug we had in the forum a while ago
  256. message at
    splitbrain
    hmm I wonder how resolved it there...
  257. message at
    splitbrain
    ahh
  258. message at
    splitbrain
    https://forum.dokuwiki.org/thread/4721,2;nocount
  259. message at
    splitbrain
    this might be it...
  260. message at
    splitbrain
    checking
  261. message at
    splitbrain
    hmm no jabber set.
  262. message at
    Michitux
    I can't find the bug report for the gzip compression issue
  263. message at
    Michitux
    any idea where that discussion happened?
  264. message at
    splitbrain
    nope
  265. message at
    Michitux
    maybe here?
  266. message at
    selfthinker
    Michitux => http://irc.dokuwiki.org/?d=2012-01-13
  267. message at
    Michitux
    selfthinker: yes, i've also just found it
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    selfthinker
    "send application/octet-stream instead"
  269. message at
    Michitux
    but I think we haven't fixed it back then because it is standards compliant
  270. message at
    Michitux
    and google didn't have any problem with it
  271. message at
    splitbrain
    the thing is, unless the client is sending an accept header for gzip it shouldn't get the transfer encoding anyway
  272. message at
    splitbrain
    so microsoft say it understands gzip but doesn't?
  273. message at
    Michitux
    well, maybe they behave like many browsers and only remove one layer of gzip compression
  274. message at
    Michitux
    hm, what I just wonder is how I concluded back then from http://www.hacksparrow.com/how-to-generate-compressed-xml-sitemaps-using-php.html
  275. message at
    Michitux
    that it is standards compliant?
  276. message at
    Michitux
    ah, no, that was another article
  277. message at
    Michitux
    the funny thing is that http://blogs.msdn.com/b/wndp/archive/2006/08/21/content-encoding-not-equal-content-type.aspx#9501149 this article is from microsoft
  278. message at
    splitbrain
    :-D
  279. message at
    splitbrain
    so.. can we simply not send the sitemap with content-encoding gzip?
  280. message at
    Michitux
    and the other article was that even when we set the content-type to x-gzip, the webserver might additionally compress our output
  281. message at
    Michitux
    which is even worse as then it will be definitely broken
  282. message at
    Michitux
    unless the webserver then sets the content-encoding, too
  283. message at
    selfthinker
    "21:37:28 splitbrain Michitux, so I suggest to open a feature request for setting the nogzip constant when act==sitemap" (from the IRC log on 2012-01-13)
  284. message at
    Michitux
    selfthinker: yeah, but I fear I have never created that feature request
  285. message at
    selfthinker
    do you still consider that a good solution?
  286. message at
    splitbrain
    guys as far as I can see we never set any content encoding
  287. message at
    splitbrain
    act_sitemap simply sets the mime type
  288. message at
    splitbrain
    then passes it to http_sendfile
  289. message at
    splitbrain
    or uses readfile to send it to the client
  290. message at
    selfthinker
    I don't have much time anymore ... maybe 10-20 minutes
  291. message at
    Michitux
    I think ob_gzhandler does that
  292. message at
    splitbrain
    aha
  293. message at
    Michitux
    which was also why on dokuwiki.org it didn't happen because there x-sendfile is used
  294. message at
    Michitux
    well, I think disabling gzip compression is a first step
  295. message at
    splitbrain
    problem is that ob_gzhandler is registered really early
  296. message at
    splitbrain
    much earlier than ?do=sitemap processing
  297. message at
    Michitux
    yes, so we most probably need some "guessing" if the sitemap action will be called and then just diable gzip compression
  298. message at
    Michitux
    and if the sitemap won't be called, there will be no gzip compression but that shouldn't hurt
  299. message at
    splitbrain
    okay, Michitux I assigned you to the bug
  300. message at
    splitbrain
    last one on the roadmpa is FS#2573
  301. message at
    Michitux
    what about these $INPUT things - do we have that everywhere now?
  302. message at
    splitbrain
    I think I've seen this bug recently, I'll assign it to me
  303. message at
    splitbrain
    hmm the INPUT stuff... good question
  304. message at
    Michitux
    in your google docs sheet there is still a lot missing
  305. message at
    splitbrain
    yeah, looks like it
  306. message at
    splitbrain
    I'll open a bug report
  307. message at
    Michitux
    and wasn't that also somehow security relevant?
  308. message at
    Michitux
    (though I don't really believe in security by unknown file paths, but okay...)
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  310. message at
    Michitux
    I can also reproduce that delete bug here
  311. message at
    splitbrain
    opened FS#2577
  312. message at
    splitbrain
    btw. i deleted my jabber address from the bug tracker profile and for now it seems much faster and hasn't given me a 500 yet
  313. message at
    splitbrain
    I see if I find how to disable jabber completely
  314. message at
    Michitux
    but I have notify type email, that's strange, but okay, I'll try it
  315. message at
    splitbrain
    it probably also breaks if you reply somewhere where I get a notification
  316. message at
    Michitux
    ah, okay
  317. message at
    Michitux
    hm, when I go on https://www.dokuwiki.org/dokuwiki?do=media and try to resize the right pane after opening an image (without touching the left pane), the right pane goes below the other panes - can you reproduce that?
  318. message at
    splitbrain
    fuck
  319. message at
    splitbrain
    yes
  320. message at
    selfthinker
    I will stay online, but I will not always be in front of my laptop ... I need to have dinner now
  321. message at
    splitbrain
    Michitux, can you reopen the bug report we had about this?
  322. message at
    splitbrain
    selfthinker, Michitux I think we should try to have a second bug hunting event
  323. message at
    splitbrain
    and if it is just us three
  324. message at
    splitbrain
    (I just like to not work alone ;-))
  325. message at
    Michitux
    I most probably won't be at home the next three weekends
  326. message at
    splitbrain
    Michitux, okay... well I'll see what I can fix
  327. message at
    Michitux
    the next two weekends I'm on an academy and in three weeks I'll hopefully be in linz
  328. message at
    splitbrain
    is it in three weeks already!?
  329. message at
    splitbrain
    wow
  330. message at
    selfthinker
    you two can have fan fixing bug in linz ;-)
  331. message at
    selfthinker
    *fun
  332. message at
    selfthinker
    *bugs
  333. message at
    selfthinker
    tss
  334. message at
    splitbrain
    :-) we'll fix the fan bugs there
  335. message at
    splitbrain
    especially those of the mediawiki fans
  336. message at
    Michitux
    I wonder if we have any dokuwiki fans in linz who would host me, I'm already trying on couchsurfing, but I've had no luck yet
  337. message at
    splitbrain
    oh and I need to remember: don't listen to marc when he tells you to just go for one more beer
  338. message at
    Michitux
    hm, is the users map broken for you, too? https://forum.dokuwiki.org/userfeed/map.html
  339. message at
    Michitux
    ah, it's not really broken
  340. message at
    splitbrain
    I just wanted to ask the same
  341. message at
    Michitux
    I just didn't notice that chromium hasn't loaded the javascript
  342. message at
    Michitux
    because the javascript is loaded over http
  343. message at
    Michitux
    there is a tiny icon at the right side of the url bar
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  345. message at
    selfthinker
    tss, splitbrain, if I didn't already know that Marc is Canadian, I would assume he's British from that description ;-)
  346. message at
    splitbrain
    selfthinker, last time in danzig we ended up in this gay disco/bar and marc suddenly had two bottles of vodka...
  347. message at
    Michitux
    does anybody of you know natschlaeger or mandy?
  348. message at
    splitbrain
    never heard of them
  349. message at
    Michitux
    me neither, these are the two dokuwiki users in or near (about 25km in the case of natschlaeger) linz who have been at least a bit active in the forum
  350. message at
    splitbrain
    trying to fix the map, but now the API key isn't valid!?
  351. message at
    splitbrain
    WTF?
  352. message at
    splitbrain
    alright
  353. message at
    splitbrain
    now it works
  354. message at
    selfthinker
    my neighbour is screaming at the telly :-/
  355. message at
    selfthinker
    some sports I guess ... "come oooooon ... yes!"
  356. message at
    splitbrain
    could be porn ;-P
  357. message at
    selfthinker
    tss, I knew you would say that :D
  358. message at
    splitbrain
    :-D
  359. message at
    splitbrain
    okay guys. I think I had enough for today.
  360. message at
    splitbrain
    I'd like to have this more often
  361. message at
    splitbrain
    and I'd like to have more people here
  362. message at
    selfthinker
    yes, indeed
  363. message at
    splitbrain
    eg. it would have been nice to have the infrastructure guys at hand
  364. message at
    Michitux
    did we announce this on the mailinglist?
  365. message at
    splitbrain
    not yet
  366. message at
    splitbrain
    we should
  367. message at
    splitbrain
    alright
  368. message at
    splitbrain
    let's talk about the other things another day
  369. message at
    splitbrain
    I really need some sleep
  370. message at
    splitbrain
    cya
  371. message at
    selfthinker
    IIRC we *did* announce it on the mailinglist
  372. message at
    Michitux
    okay, gn8 splitbrain
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  374. message at
    selfthinker
    hmm, maybe we did *not* announce it!? I'm confused, I cannot find it
  375. message at
    selfthinker
    anyway, we should ... better twice than never
  376. message at
    selfthinker
    okay, I'll go offline as well then
  377. message at
    selfthinker
    good night
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